Indonesia and Kazakhstan are two nations that see themselves as «middle powers» in their respective regions, pursuing independent, multi-vector foreign policies. In recent years, they have significantly expanded cooperation: from rising trade and investment to stronger cultural ties.
We sat down with Indonesia’s Ambassador to Kazakhstan, Moсhamad Fadjroel Rachman, to discuss plans to boost trade turnover to 1 billion dollars, explore the role of cultural diplomacy and educational initiatives, and hear about the Ambassador’s personal passion for the poetry of Abai.

